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Community College Threat

12:02 PM Thu, May 29, 2008 |
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Some students are protesting the videotaped arrest of a student accused of threatening mass violence at Seattle Central Community College.

Students who witnessed the arrest say Seattle Police "brutalized" the suspect, but police say he did not cooperate with their demands and they were forced to take him down.

Considering the circumstances, do you think police used excessive force?



9 Comments

Officer I.M. said:

The supreme court has ruled that the force used by police cannot be examined and critiqued from the calm hindsight of 20/20. The fact that none of us were there, feeling and experiencing what those officers were feeling, means that none of us can determine whether or not excessive force was used. The officers involved were executing an arrest, which in itself is not a violent thing, however; for the preservation of peace and order, if an individual refuses to cooperate with the lawful demands of a police officer, a police officer may use a reasonable amount of force necessary to subdue and detain the subject. This individual was arrested based on probable cause to believe that a felony had been committed. As a police officer, I believe that getting someone off of the street who has made such egregious threats is a necessary function of our job description. Unfortunately it goes without the respect and thanks of the public, but then again, if we wanted to be heroes we would have become firemen.

Officer I.M. said:

The supreme court has ruled that the force used by police cannot be examined and critiqued from the calm hindsight of 20/20. The fact that none of us were there, feeling and experiencing what those officers were feeling, means that none of us can determine whether or not excessive force was used. The officers involved were executing an arrest, which in itself is not a violent thing, however; for the preservation of peace and order, if an individual refuses to cooperate with the lawful demands of a police officer, a police officer may use a reasonable amount of force necessary to subdue and detain the subject. This individual was arrested based on probable cause to believe that a felony had been committed. As a police officer, I believe that getting someone off of the street who has made such egregious threats is a necessary function of our job description. Unfortunately it goes without the respect and thanks of the public, but then again, if we wanted to be heroes we would have become firemen.

bluescott said:

When a man threatens to shoot up his fellow students then kill himself what exactly do those fellow students want the Police to do? This suspect (he is no victim) wanted to be remembered like the Virginia Tech shooter. I am amazed at the restraint these Officers showed. They were confronting a suspect who was possibly armed, definately dangerous, and was refusing to obey lawful commands. Those Officers could have lawfully and morally used much more force than is shown in the video. With the information known to those Officers at the time his suspect is very lucky that the Officers didn't end the threat by shooting him.
The protesters would be the first people to blame the police for not doing enough if the suspect had shot up the school as he planned. Now that the Police didn't give him the chance to kill them or their classmates have they somehow deprived him of his rights? Criminals forfeit their rights when they commit crimes, and resisting a Police Officer is an invitation to have force used against you.
Seattle is fortunate to have the Officers they do.

Ray S said:

Police need to have the ability to do the jobs that they are highly trained for. Who do these student think would have taken the blame if this individual would have injured or killed someone?
Think about the poor child who died in Tacoma at the hands of his mothers boyfriend who had in the past injured his own child. People who threaten others should not be given the chance to carry out thair threats even if it means using force by traind officers paid by taxpayers to protect and serve us all. I sleep well at night knowing these individuals are out there. Seattle Police Thank you all.

Vince Castro said:

We are missing the main issue! A man threatens a school and action is taken. Now we complain about what the Police did? If he went on a shooting spree what do we say then? I think the Officers did as they should have done, to treat the issue as a threat and nothing less. Good Job goes out to the School Security and the Local Police.

Gary said:

These college kids need to remember the Virginia Tech massacre from last year!!! What if the police didn't use the force neccessary and he escaped and killed 30 - 40 kids, what then? They'd be screaming the SPD didn't do their job. Give me a break!!!

Ron said:

When it comes to school violence, the "right" thing to do is stop it at all costs. ZERO tolerance! These "children" need to become responsible adults and start acting mature instead of acting like spoiled brats. The Police are in authority over ALL of us, like it or not.

Adrian E. said:

What today's kids need to realize, once you've turned 18 - you have to answer for your actions!...

pjbalaska said:

Actually, I tend to be "anti police". Yes, they are needed to protect us from malevolent types which otherwise would run rampant in this society. Unfortunately, however, the police themselves are often populated by "malevolent types." They all too often join the police because they like to brutalize people; just as Boy Scout troop leaders are far more likely to be pedophiles than the broader society. The police pump themselves up on illegal steroids and get out there, knowing that the public is in general none the wiser as they back flip a 53 year old man who was asking the cops why they were brutalizing a young boy recently; etc., etc., ad infinitum ad nauseaum. Seems like this particular case is a case a valid use of police power, however, just based on the press account.


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