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Christmas Controversy

7:15 PM Thu, Oct 18, 2007 |
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Sea-Tac Airport has new holiday decorations. Do you agree with a religion-free display?



20 Comments

Maureen O'Connell said:

No, I don't agree with a religious-free display. CHRISTmas IS a religious holiday. It is the birthday of Jesus Christ and as such should be a celebration of that. When will people stop trying to rewrite history? To try to clean it up so that on one is offended is rediculous. Those who won't be celebrating Christ's birthday should leave Christmas alone and plan their own holiday.

Saera said:

I still dont see why we cant have displays for all faiths (including athiest) winter holidays. I suppose no religious display is better than a single faith display since there are so many faiths out there, but I believe this is a perfect opportunity for the different faiths to have a spot to display and explain more about their faith to those from other belief structures.

David Horn said:

Seasonal displays at the airport are appropriate and add to the art displays. It's nice to see something fresh and different each time you travel through Sea-Tac. Religious displays should remain on private church/synagogue/mosque/etc property and out of public locations since we live in a secular nation. Let's continue to keep church (religion) and state (government) separate. It's appalling that our state capital refuses to follow the law this year.

John said:

I find it interesting that the burial of decent traditions - American Traditions - is celebrated by less people than support them. Many of the traditions were reasons why people struggled to come to America, and now America is becoming like many of those countries that people left for the same reasons.

There is no harm in viewing long held traditions, let alone just participating in them - it is unreasonable for all views to be equally held, for even trying to find a neutral approach is only dismissing the views of many.

To prevent traditions, even if religious, is contrary to the idea of separation of church and state as well as the 2nd Amendment, for it is controlled and banned exposure or expression. That is unconstitutional, and un-American.
Where is the democracy in banned speech, even if it is religion? Aren't we able to make our own choices individually and as democratic majorities? Let the trees back in.

Lisa said:

First of all Athiest is not a religion but an act of ignorance.

Seasonal displays are an important part of lives around the world. The fact that someone may or may not be from America isn't our problem. If they did certain things in your country that you miss either celebrate them on your own or go home! Don't try to ruin what's left of Christianity. I had to move my children to a private Christian school so they could say Merry Christmas for goodness sake! Oh and not to mention Bless you after a sneeze.
I think it's sad that America has started to surrender from the constant hounding of those who are all about themselves. The new 1 dollar American coin no longer says "In God We Trust".....something to think about and start stopping those who wish to ruin history for every one else.

GOD Bless!

Satharielle said:

I think some forget that just because you are FROM America does NOT mean youre Christian. America is a land for all faiths, not just christians. Christianity isnt the only history the American people have, it is part of the history of the land, but not all.

I find it quite humerous you say athiesim is an act of ignorance when athiests would feel quite the same about you. I am not an athiest, nor am I Christian. I have no problem with either choice or any of the other miriad of religious faiths out there. We all have our own path to follow, our own religion or lack there of.

Personally I'd be much more comfortable seeing a religious holiday display at an air port than at a government building. Though I dont see the "Christmas" tree as being Christian as it was around long before Christianity. Decorated tree's and jolly fat old elves in red suits arent exactly the nativity scene, which is a religious decoration.

Personally I think the airport would look lovely just decorated with greenery, colorful ribbons and lights. A very northwest look :)

erv said:


growing up seeing the festive decorations just made ya feel good but with all this fighting over all this good will just isnt worth it. im not religious and up until now i been just live and let live, im tired of these groups trying to cram thier beliefs down everybodys elses throats. anymore religion isnt fit for public viewing so keep in your church or in your home and leave the rest of us out of your bickering.

j huft said:

what really baffles me is why is it wrong for Americans to enjoy a holiday that is tradition for Americans.......People don't want to see gay people naked in a parade......but it happens......FINE THEN THE government should drop it as a national holiday all together......it should be Illegal for employers to give bonuses to anyone if it has to do with Christmas....same with time off.....all government agencies should have to work,.....no government employee should receive any time off or extra pay for anything that has to do with Christmas....we should call this country russia or china......hell half of them live here already..............i say that people who do not like the traditions that this country has should move find another country that will listen to your half witted complaints.....the only reason any of you are talking is because you live here...and you have the right, right now to say what ever you want.....

Jack M said:

Funny, all my life Christmas was an American holiday... a time of giving and/or celebrating Jesus birth 2000+ years ago. All of a sudden the past few years we get a rash of "other" religions telling us it offends them and should be abolished. Leave Christmas alone! If you don't like it, either celebrate your own "religious" holiday whenever that is and leave Christmas alone. If you can't stand Christmas... go back to whatever country you came from and see if they will abolish it there. Maybe we should abolish "Thanksgiving Day" or "Martin Luther King Day" or "Washington's Birthday" or "Columbus Day" while we're at it.

Quinn said:

Why should I have to look at decorations that promote a violent religion's lies?


There is no Santa Clause.
There is no reason to decorate a dead tree.
There is no 'god'.


This country needs, very badly to realize that religion is ruining our precious constitution.

Carol said:


Religious free displays are absurd.

It's Christmas folks and, like or not, Christmas has a strong religious basis.

People who are anti-Christian need to get a life. In fact, I'll make them a deal: you leave us alone and we won't go after the things you enjoy.

John said:

This is to almost everyone above. You should know if I'm talking to you or not. Christmas is NOT just an american holiday. Maybe you should all look outside your little box you live in. Christmas is celebrated all over the world. Think before you speek.

Rebecca said:

There are many different religions celebrating their holiday during the Christmas holiday. All holidays should be recognized at SeaTac because it is an international airport. A winter theme for those not of any religious denomination would be beautiful. I say decorate however you choose and don't allow others to dictate because they are offended. This is America. America is a country of all cultures, religions, etc. not just christians and any kind of beautiful decorations would make the airport a more enjoyable place to pass through during Dec.

j Huft said:

It may be enjoyed all over the world but it is only here that morons are allowed to destroy it.....Again it is your right to do so....And I think A lot about what I say........I still think that if you want to have a government tell you what you can and cannot put up as decorations you need to move to CHINA or RUSSIA.......if you want a government that dictates your religious beliefs then definitely move to CHINA......if you don't then you tolerate our customs and beliefs and exercise your right not to participate.....HELLL even your right to vocally disapprove of it.....BUt if people are going to file lawsuits over decorations......... then they should be shipped to another more accommodating country....

John said:

j Huft, You are forgetting one thing. This is not only your airport. This airport belongs to the community. You have all the right to decorate YOUR property with any theme you choose. The problem is the airport is used by other people that are not Christian. You talk about CHINA or RUSSIA telling you what to do. You are talking about your personal rights being taken away. That is not the case here. You say "But if people are going to file lawsuits over decorations......... then they should be shipped to another more accommodating country" You are the one that is acting like a dictator. " my way or the highway" Let me ask you a question if the the person in charge of the airport was Buddhist would you complain if they only decorated the airport with just Buddhist symbals? If your answer is yes, than you are so blind. Why should everyone have to enjoy everything that you enjoy? You talk about CHINA or RUSSIA telling you what you can and cannot put up as decorations. Yet you want to ship anyone that does not feel the way you do about Christmas out of the country. You are acting exactly like the countries you stated. What you have to understand is what Rebecca said is the way you have to do it living with people of all nationalities. We have to try to please everyone not just you j Huft. Once again I say think before you speek.

John said:

Carol, it's funny you say "People who are anti-Christian need to get a life. In fact, I'll make them a deal: you leave us alone and we won't go after the things you enjoy." Yet the gay people are getting bashed by the Christians in the blog about "watchmen on the walls" I think gay people enjoy doing their thing.... so leave them alone.

j huft said:

then my question to you john is this why for the last 200 years it has been the way Americans do things....and has been UN mentioned till the last 20 years..... give me a break......these people who are complaining are simply sad......the only reason people have holidays off is because of Christmas john....if the only people who benefited from the holiday were christians then you would have a point with me.......but they are not.......and the fact that this country and it's traditions have been around a lot longer than any one who is complaining well that is good enough for me......people only have to put up with it for two weeks out of the year....not being a religious person myself it seems tolerable enough to me......it's a national holiday.....so the government has the right to observe it.....and I promise you that a lot more people like the decorations than not.....just another case of a few miserable people ruining it for the many.......and by the way if you want to talk about where the tax money is going and not liking it trust me I could write a novel....no the fact of it is is that every thing that makes this country great and unique is being shredded by whiny litigious people who only want to make a quick buck.......that is the new American dream.....and if the people didn't vote to have the decorations taken down in the government buildings then no one has a right to complain....it's as simple as that........narrow minded or not just put it to a vote......

John said:

First off I never said that was not the way America has done it for the past 200 years. What I Said is that Christmas is NOT just an American Holiday. Second I personally like Christmas decorations. But I also understand we live in different times now. If you have not noticed a lot has changed in this country in the past 200 years. Some for the good and a lot for the bad. 200 years ago people rode horses everywhere and used oil lamps to see at night. So sell your cars buy a horse and have your electricity shut off at your house, because you want it just like it was 200 years ago. You say "a lot more people like the decorations than not." That is a true statement, but with that reasoning there are a lot more Christians in this country than any other religion. Does that mean we should take a vote to outlaw any religion that is not Christian? Like I said I do like Christmas decorations, but I don't think they belong in the public or government funded buildings. If they want to continue they should also observe the holidays for the Muslims,Jewish,Morman,buddhist etc. It is best if they observe the seperation of church and state. I also think that government funded jobs should not get days off or extra pay for religious holidays. I agree lets not get started on the waste of tax dollars. You said "it should be Illegal for employers to give bonuses to anyone if it has to do with Christmas" Not true at all, privately owned businesses can and should do whatever they wish regarding holidays. You said "this Country is being shredded by whiny litigious people who only want to make a quick buck." I agree with you. That is why I agree with seperation of church and state. It's like the old saying whats good for the goose is good for the gander. If the government wants to observe the holidays for the Christian community, than they should also observe the holidays for the other religions. If they don't want to do that, than they should not observe any holidays at all. One more thing, Merry Christmas j. Huft. Now go decorate your house. Leave the government buildings alone.

Daler said:

John, John, John, John. If Christmas decorations don't bother you, why say anything? Just because people wish to observe a 200 year old tradition of celebration, doesn't mean they have to go back to the dark ages of living style. Let me ask you this. Did you get married by a preacher? If you did you swore an oath before God and your wife.

And so the hell what if an entity of the government displays something Christmasy on government property. I defy you to show me in writing anything that says that that the government must be seperated from the church. If you really want to know where it came from, it was written in a letter by Thomas Jefferson to a preacher as a suggestion. And, when he wrote that, he was stating that the church should not run the government, and the government should not run the church. THAT IS "ALL" IT MEANT. It didn't have a damned thing to do with Christmas decorations. No more than one can call the content of a Hollywood movie freedom of speech.

We have a freedom of religion in this country and a freedom of speech. I am sick and tired of of people like you exercising your freedoms to twist and distort my bill of rights and my constitution to cause the kind of hate and discontent you are stirring up. And, yes, I blame you and people like you. You guys started this crap with your whining. This rhetoric pouring out of you guys' mouths, just because something offends you, has got to stop. You are destroying the United States' foundations with this crap. STOP IT!!!!!

Daler said:

John. One more thing. We all know that Christmas is celebrated all over the world. They celebrate it their way, we celebrate it ours. Your arguements don't hold much water on that one.


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