What do you think of Saturday's announcement by embattled Idaho Senator Larry Craig?
24 Comments
Joe said:
All republicans are the same. This is just another case of "told ya so".
carol said:
I agree that Sen Craig should have resigned
unless he could prove he did not do what the
undercover police said to him. He did plead
guilty.
I voted for Craig.
In early years their was talk about him being
gay, but I think he just likes to have sex with men once in a while. Men that do that are not
gay....I guess!!!! Not being gay and quite old
I really don't know much about these icky things.
It is such a sin to be gay I just don't understand
why men don't just go without relationships. Some do.
Very few and a lot of them get diseases.
All will go to hell unless they repent and turn
to Jesus for forgiveness.
Love the soul of man , but not the sin. I hate that sin as much as I hate murder.
Richard Wharton said:
Boy O Boy! Sabrina and ESPECIALLY Erik Sandoval really tried to stir up and make a BIG issue out of the Senator Craig resignation and how badly it would hurt the GOP. But what a dud this whole thing was for NWCN! Nice bias reporting guys! According to you those evil Republicans timed this to create minimum impact didn't they!!!Weep and cry NWCN! Your Demoncrats would have done the same thing! Or they would have claimed they had a "lapse of judgement" or "What was I thinking?" they go ahead and fight to hold their position. At least the Republicans have some scruples which the Demoncrats have none of. Bill Clinton got a blow job in the Oval Office and the Demoncrats just line up to support him. What a great group of a perverted political party!
LYNNELL SIDDONS said:
Amazing, A President is Impeached, He Stays in office. A Senator has a freezer full of money, he stays. A Senator lets a young Intern drown on a trip while he is driving the car. He saves himself and lets her drown and he stays. An Idaho Senator plays footsies and he resigns. A Republican does something wrong and he must resign. A Democrat does something wrong and it makes them more likeable and powerful. It looks like double standards to me. The media were obviously thrilled to report this over and over. They displayed there biggest smiles and appeared to be overjoyed at this news. Sickening.
erv said:
re:LYNNELL SIDDONS
the one that has been long coming is bush, he lies to the world costing us over 3500 lives and 10 times that wounded also look at the thousands of innocent killed and wounded. now aproaching a half trillion dollars it goes on without impeachment. look how he has handled FEMA and now a whole new mess with medicare. he screws up everything he touches so you cant go around saying only the democrats get away with it. check the mayor west story, he took the same hard line craig has and yet he was going on gay chat rooms while in his mayors office and engaging in mutual masturbation with other guys online. he was also meeting 17 yr olds then waiting til they turned 18 before he tried to nail them. when someone has to resign in disgrace like this they also should lost all of thier pension benefits.
Tom said:
Well what is the issue here? That Senator Craig is gay or confused about his sexuality or that he is a Republican? Would we even be having this conversation if he were Democrat?
karen knutson said:
As always, when someone from "the moral values" crowd gets caught (Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, Senator Vitter, Bob Allen, and now Senator Craig), the outrage is less about what occurred than it is about the hypocrisy and self-loathing involved. There have been a number of prominent Democrats whose political lives have been altered, usually after untoward behavior with females. Remember Brock Adams, Bob Packwood, Mike Lowry? For anyone to claim that Democrats get a free ride on issues of personal behavior is simply absurd. Decorated war veterans serving in Congress and the Senate can't even question our country's foreign policy (which is, after all, what we elect them to do!) without being accused of cowardice.
dee said:
I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! Talk about a double standard. Maybe Senator Craig should have stayed in office, he could have been president.
mudgolem said:
Surprised the democrats did not pass legislation making playing footsy in a bathroom stalls legal. For a group of candy asses with power in the house and the senate are not doing a thing. they cry foul when they are the minority and then don't do anything major when they have control. What a lame duck with a big mouth - bend over the democrats are coming
Marilyn said:
Larry Craig is a victim. If he succombed to boredom in the bathroom stall without any reading material and, being neat, used the time to pick up papers, etc. and accidentally touched the policeman's foot, which had been placed close to the divider, in a spot to ensnare a culpret, then he is innocent. If he was brought up in a "good" Idaho home where homosexuality was condemned and he had felt tendencies in that direction when young, he had to bury those feelings and reject a part of himself. If this resulted in a momentary aberration of behavior, what harm did it do? Society, which picks on any group to vilify and condemn is to blame. Young, pretty women are actually assaulted with verbal ugliness and touching by men all the time. That behavior of stupid heterosexual men and boys is far worse than silence and tapping a shoe. Why aren't all of those heterosexual men and boys prosecuted? I am a churchgoing Democrat and a heterosexual grandmother. I think for myself and do not swallow whole what is told me from the pulpet. I abhor the selfishness of the other politicians, the cruelty of people, their lack of compassion, and their lack of understanding and imagination. I believe a strong and successful movement to reinstate Larry Craig should be started, that the misdemeanor record should be wiped away, and that he should receive warm, reassuring support. I would vote for a Democrat candidate running against him because of issues. However, our society's unfairness, unkindness and ignorance must be cured. Would a law making same sex marriage legal and acceptable help people to accept homosexuality in themselves and others; help them to be fair and kind and put an end to occurences such as this one?
Stella said:
LARRY CRAIG IS NASTY. HOW DESPERATE HE MUST BEEN TO LOOK FOR AN ASS IN A PUBLIC BATHROOM.
Chris Halverson said:
If Senator Craig would not have "plead guilty" got a lawyer in the first place there would not have been such a "slanderous show". The tapes would have smelled of entrapment and that would have been that. The Senator did this to himself. To me his credibility is definitely in question.....
Lee said:
Larry Craig did not do anything that would impact his ability to continue his elected position. Jim McDermott, Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton have committed felonies and/or murders and hey, its OK. You gotta love them liberals though, they'll eat their children before they'd succumb to logic or empirical evidence.
That funny bumper sticker that said that the government hates crime because they don't want the competition is certainly still true.
I now firmly believe in term limits: two terms in office, two terms out, then start over if still electable.
Jo said:
I was saddened to see All this Larry Craig sitituation come down and I hope, in time he will be able to prove that he was set up some way. He was a good Sentator for Idaho, How would people who heckled him feel if it had been them in that sititation. Don't think it can't...
Ray Rossman said:
Does anyone know Larry Craig's schedule on June 11, 2007? What airline was he on? Flight # ? Indeed, was he flying at all? Was he coming from D.C.? Answers to these questions might explain this story better. If you know please share.
Doug Wood said:
Here is the way it goes.
Many Liberals are openly gay.
It takes a WASP Conservative to proposition for sex from a toilet seat.
My heroes are the ilk of Harvey Milk.
Goodbye to the disgusting Senator Larry Craig.
Relevant said:
Let me just say that I am not saying anything about Larry Craig's political stances as I am not familiar with them and do not believe that they are relevant to this discussion.
However, he gets caught doing "something", whether it is innocent or not. He then pleads guilty and hopes that it gets swept under the rug. When it comes out, he now wants to fight it and see if he can get rid of the guilty plea and have his day in court. Then, he resigns from office amid the "scandal". Now I just read that he is "re-thinking his resignation".
What gives with this guy and who is actually helping him in his decision making? This guy at least seems more wishy-washy than anyone I can remember. Make a decision, go with it and move forward. Good grief!!
erv said:
maybe if he goes to court he can claim that when he was in that bathroom he was just sitting there tapping his foot in deep thought then he didnt have enough tapping time after the arrest to decide weather to plead guilty or not and after he realized he errored. therefore the guilty plea should be set aside, we should just go back to square one and let by gones be by gones. except for that homo cop who needs to be fired and give the bum a mop.
sfp said:
lets face it, craig got caught with his hand in the cookie bowl. the cop didnt set him up! craig was fishing for a lover.
he should at least have the guts to resign and let the matter drop.
he is not a roll model for children
mudgolem said:
I quit - no, i was framed - no, i am happily married - no- i don't no craig, just bend over and take it like a man - go liberals - with this kind of representation no wonder you take a beating
Quinn said:
**** I think that NWCN definitely censors this blog and deletes pro-liberal comments. Anything negative that would be written about republicans is erased hours later. If anyone is reading this, it'll be gone soon! ****
PS - I find it extremely funny that "christian" "repiblicans" have gay sex. I eat a cake and have a party. You know what? I rent out huge reception halls, bring in the professional caterers... I have civilized, SECULAR, respectable parties with people who care about the environment and human rights EVERY TIME A PRIEST GETS CAUGHT HAVING SEX WITH A KID. Then, make sure that kid gets a scholarship to college.
Republicans talk to themselves to a fake god with hateful morals and they're full of money. FULL OF MONEY!
Selkie said:
You pled guity to the charges. Take RESPONSIBILITY for your actions Senator and resign! You are just dragging your name through the press and embarassing your family, friends and the Senate. Good grief is right!
mudgolem said:
Quinn you are a moron and should have lived in the McCarthy era of this nation. you paranoid twit
get a clue and a life, and quit whining about rights for democrats - maybe you should rent out a hall and invited democrats over for a reception. hopefully you are better at throwing receptions because you suck at throwing accusations
Brian said:
Someone posted earlier that Craig was caught with his hand in the cookie jar. I would think more like he was caught with his pants down. All things considered, I think he ought to resign. As Selkie said, he ought to take responsibility for his actions.
All republicans are the same. This is just another case of "told ya so".
I agree that Sen Craig should have resigned
unless he could prove he did not do what the
undercover police said to him. He did plead
guilty.
I voted for Craig.
In early years their was talk about him being
gay, but I think he just likes to have sex with men once in a while. Men that do that are not
gay....I guess!!!! Not being gay and quite old
I really don't know much about these icky things.
It is such a sin to be gay I just don't understand
why men don't just go without relationships. Some do.
Very few and a lot of them get diseases.
All will go to hell unless they repent and turn
to Jesus for forgiveness.
Love the soul of man , but not the sin. I hate that sin as much as I hate murder.
Boy O Boy! Sabrina and ESPECIALLY Erik Sandoval really tried to stir up and make a BIG issue out of the Senator Craig resignation and how badly it would hurt the GOP. But what a dud this whole thing was for NWCN! Nice bias reporting guys! According to you those evil Republicans timed this to create minimum impact didn't they!!!Weep and cry NWCN! Your Demoncrats would have done the same thing! Or they would have claimed they had a "lapse of judgement" or "What was I thinking?" they go ahead and fight to hold their position. At least the Republicans have some scruples which the Demoncrats have none of. Bill Clinton got a blow job in the Oval Office and the Demoncrats just line up to support him. What a great group of a perverted political party!
Amazing, A President is Impeached, He Stays in office. A Senator has a freezer full of money, he stays. A Senator lets a young Intern drown on a trip while he is driving the car. He saves himself and lets her drown and he stays. An Idaho Senator plays footsies and he resigns. A Republican does something wrong and he must resign. A Democrat does something wrong and it makes them more likeable and powerful. It looks like double standards to me. The media were obviously thrilled to report this over and over. They displayed there biggest smiles and appeared to be overjoyed at this news. Sickening.
re:LYNNELL SIDDONS
the one that has been long coming is bush, he lies to the world costing us over 3500 lives and 10 times that wounded also look at the thousands of innocent killed and wounded. now aproaching a half trillion dollars it goes on without impeachment. look how he has handled FEMA and now a whole new mess with medicare. he screws up everything he touches so you cant go around saying only the democrats get away with it. check the mayor west story, he took the same hard line craig has and yet he was going on gay chat rooms while in his mayors office and engaging in mutual masturbation with other guys online. he was also meeting 17 yr olds then waiting til they turned 18 before he tried to nail them. when someone has to resign in disgrace like this they also should lost all of thier pension benefits.
Well what is the issue here? That Senator Craig is gay or confused about his sexuality or that he is a Republican? Would we even be having this conversation if he were Democrat?
As always, when someone from "the moral values" crowd gets caught (Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, Senator Vitter, Bob Allen, and now Senator Craig), the outrage is less about what occurred than it is about the hypocrisy and self-loathing involved. There have been a number of prominent Democrats whose political lives have been altered, usually after untoward behavior with females. Remember Brock Adams, Bob Packwood, Mike Lowry? For anyone to claim that Democrats get a free ride on issues of personal behavior is simply absurd. Decorated war veterans serving in Congress and the Senate can't even question our country's foreign policy (which is, after all, what we elect them to do!) without being accused of cowardice.
I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! Talk about a double standard. Maybe Senator Craig should have stayed in office, he could have been president.
Surprised the democrats did not pass legislation making playing footsy in a bathroom stalls legal. For a group of candy asses with power in the house and the senate are not doing a thing. they cry foul when they are the minority and then don't do anything major when they have control. What a lame duck with a big mouth - bend over the democrats are coming
Larry Craig is a victim. If he succombed to boredom in the bathroom stall without any reading material and, being neat, used the time to pick up papers, etc. and accidentally touched the policeman's foot, which had been placed close to the divider, in a spot to ensnare a culpret, then he is innocent. If he was brought up in a "good" Idaho home where homosexuality was condemned and he had felt tendencies in that direction when young, he had to bury those feelings and reject a part of himself. If this resulted in a momentary aberration of behavior, what harm did it do? Society, which picks on any group to vilify and condemn is to blame. Young, pretty women are actually assaulted with verbal ugliness and touching by men all the time. That behavior of stupid heterosexual men and boys is far worse than silence and tapping a shoe. Why aren't all of those heterosexual men and boys prosecuted? I am a churchgoing Democrat and a heterosexual grandmother. I think for myself and do not swallow whole what is told me from the pulpet. I abhor the selfishness of the other politicians, the cruelty of people, their lack of compassion, and their lack of understanding and imagination. I believe a strong and successful movement to reinstate Larry Craig should be started, that the misdemeanor record should be wiped away, and that he should receive warm, reassuring support. I would vote for a Democrat candidate running against him because of issues. However, our society's unfairness, unkindness and ignorance must be cured. Would a law making same sex marriage legal and acceptable help people to accept homosexuality in themselves and others; help them to be fair and kind and put an end to occurences such as this one?
LARRY CRAIG IS NASTY. HOW DESPERATE HE MUST BEEN TO LOOK FOR AN ASS IN A PUBLIC BATHROOM.
If Senator Craig would not have "plead guilty" got a lawyer in the first place there would not have been such a "slanderous show". The tapes would have smelled of entrapment and that would have been that. The Senator did this to himself. To me his credibility is definitely in question.....
Larry Craig did not do anything that would impact his ability to continue his elected position. Jim McDermott, Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton have committed felonies and/or murders and hey, its OK. You gotta love them liberals though, they'll eat their children before they'd succumb to logic or empirical evidence.
That funny bumper sticker that said that the government hates crime because they don't want the competition is certainly still true.
I now firmly believe in term limits: two terms in office, two terms out, then start over if still electable.
I was saddened to see All this Larry Craig sitituation come down and I hope, in time he will be able to prove that he was set up some way. He was a good Sentator for Idaho, How would people who heckled him feel if it had been them in that sititation. Don't think it can't...
Does anyone know Larry Craig's schedule on June 11, 2007? What airline was he on? Flight # ? Indeed, was he flying at all? Was he coming from D.C.? Answers to these questions might explain this story better. If you know please share.
Here is the way it goes.
Many Liberals are openly gay.
It takes a WASP Conservative to proposition for sex from a toilet seat.
My heroes are the ilk of Harvey Milk.
Goodbye to the disgusting Senator Larry Craig.
Let me just say that I am not saying anything about Larry Craig's political stances as I am not familiar with them and do not believe that they are relevant to this discussion.
However, he gets caught doing "something", whether it is innocent or not. He then pleads guilty and hopes that it gets swept under the rug. When it comes out, he now wants to fight it and see if he can get rid of the guilty plea and have his day in court. Then, he resigns from office amid the "scandal". Now I just read that he is "re-thinking his resignation".
What gives with this guy and who is actually helping him in his decision making? This guy at least seems more wishy-washy than anyone I can remember. Make a decision, go with it and move forward. Good grief!!
maybe if he goes to court he can claim that when he was in that bathroom he was just sitting there tapping his foot in deep thought then he didnt have enough tapping time after the arrest to decide weather to plead guilty or not and after he realized he errored. therefore the guilty plea should be set aside, we should just go back to square one and let by gones be by gones. except for that homo cop who needs to be fired and give the bum a mop.
lets face it, craig got caught with his hand in the cookie bowl. the cop didnt set him up! craig was fishing for a lover.
he should at least have the guts to resign and let the matter drop.
he is not a roll model for children
I quit - no, i was framed - no, i am happily married - no- i don't no craig, just bend over and take it like a man - go liberals - with this kind of representation no wonder you take a beating
**** I think that NWCN definitely censors this blog and deletes pro-liberal comments. Anything negative that would be written about republicans is erased hours later. If anyone is reading this, it'll be gone soon! ****
PS - I find it extremely funny that "christian" "repiblicans" have gay sex. I eat a cake and have a party. You know what? I rent out huge reception halls, bring in the professional caterers... I have civilized, SECULAR, respectable parties with people who care about the environment and human rights EVERY TIME A PRIEST GETS CAUGHT HAVING SEX WITH A KID. Then, make sure that kid gets a scholarship to college.
Republicans talk to themselves to a fake god with hateful morals and they're full of money. FULL OF MONEY!
You pled guity to the charges. Take RESPONSIBILITY for your actions Senator and resign! You are just dragging your name through the press and embarassing your family, friends and the Senate. Good grief is right!
Quinn you are a moron and should have lived in the McCarthy era of this nation. you paranoid twit
get a clue and a life, and quit whining about rights for democrats - maybe you should rent out a hall and invited democrats over for a reception. hopefully you are better at throwing receptions because you suck at throwing accusations
Someone posted earlier that Craig was caught with his hand in the cookie jar. I would think more like he was caught with his pants down. All things considered, I think he ought to resign. As Selkie said, he ought to take responsibility for his actions.