Do you think it was right for President Bush to spare Lewis "Scooter" Libby from serving jail time?
27 Comments
Charles said:
Yes! Your bias reporting is showing! None of of the original charges were proved against Scooter Libby. The only thing he is guilty of is not poor memory and being crossed up in his testimony by an attorney. You should try reporting the news not projecting you bias slant to the news! You will continue to lose viewers and trust of people.
ash said:
Scooter should do the time for the crime. And from the top down lock'em all up. This Republican Administration have been laughing at Americans ever since they got in office and if somebody doesn't impeach these crooks they'll be laughing at the rest of us for years to come spending their Oil profits.
Even their constituents that drank the Kool Aid will be out in the cold.
I knew this country was ignorant but this is totally insane.
Eric said:
NO, I feel that the president has excessively exercised his privlidges, it is disgusting that this has been going on for so long like this.
es said:
bush did say a dictatorship would be alot easier and here it is with his patriot act taking away our rights and him acting the part of an arrogant absolute ruler. this next election cant come soon enuf for me.
TJ said:
No. Bush and all his crooks should be impeached and serve jail time for bringing this once proud and beautiful country, our beloved United States of America, into the shameful disgrace and polluted edifice they have formed.
jb said:
Libby was convicted by a Jury, which
Bush said he "respected". Another lie among many. Impeach Bush and Chaney and bring back respect for our constitution.
Doug Anderson said:
It was obvious from the beginning that the real guilty ones (Rove and Chaney) would get their fall guy pardoned.
Rich said:
Yes Bush did the right thing!
Some of the comments attest to the fact that the Radical Liberals put their mouth in motion before putting their brain in gear.
Libby was served by our broken down Justice System.
Rich said:
Yes Bush did the right thing!
Some of the comments attest to the fact that the Radical Liberals put their mouth in motion before putting their brain in gear.
Libby was served by our broken down Justice System.
es said:
bush is an idiot!
MP said:
All of you bleeding heart liberals need to understand that your buddy Bill Clinton set the standard for executive pardons. If you're able to read and understand, which I doubt, you need to go back and read recent history about all of the pardons that Billy boy made at the end of his scandal-ridden 2nd term.
es said:
All of you bleeding heart liberals need to understand that your buddy Bill Clinton set the standard for executive pardons. If you're able to read and understand, which I doubt, you need to go back and read recent history about all of the pardons that Billy boy made at the end of his scandal-ridden 2nd term.
Posted by: MP at July 3, 2007 08:21 AM
in my lifetime i remember watergate and the iran contra affair so it didnt begin with clinton. that dont mean i like what he did with marc rich especially but on the other hand "bush is still an idiot!"
Relevant said:
MP - hopefully you too are able to read and understand because Presidential Pardons did not begin with Slick Willy. Ford pardoned Nixon, HW Bush pardoned everyone associated with iran-contra. And these are just the most resent examples. After Ford pardoned Nixon Cangress tried to pass a resolution that would enable them to vetoe a Presidential Pardon but it couldn't pass the House nor the Senate, so this really is the way that our elected officials like it.
I'm not fan of Bush, but Scooter Libby was only convicted because they couldn't get any dirt on Rove and Cheney. That is why he wasn't charged with anything more serious. Buch and Cheney hung him out there to satisfy those on the Witch Hunt to get someone/anyone convicted. Scotter knew that he would be pardoned if convicted.
johanna huft said:
it depends on which you think is worse...letting your friend go to jail for you or save him.......the CLINTONS let there friends HANG for them.....bush is just doing for his friends what the Clinton's were to afraid to do.........he is letting them get off Scott free........SOUNDS LIKE ALL THE PARTIES ARE F#%&ED IN THE HEAD to mee.....
Relevant said:
This is why so many smart, well-meaning people eventually give up their dreams of being in politics: They soon find out that there is just way too much shady crap that goes on.
Keith said:
I'm not sure that I agree with him or not. One thing I will say is that the Libby deal PALES
in comparison with the number of people that Bubba
pardoned and the crimes for which they were pardoned.
es said:
msnbc has an article about this and a poll. so far 74% of the people are against what bush did. so what else is new? it seems no matter what he does the numbers that support him seem like hard core hold outs.
Nancy said:
I say yay for President Bush. I was sincerely hoping that he would step in and do something about this. I don't feel that Mr. Libby should have been convicted in the first place. I believe he was a fall-guy.
Geeze peeples. You all act like Bush is the only President to ever pardon anyone. He's been blamed for everything from Global warming, to hurricanes. He'd dang near have to be God, for him to be responsible for everything he's accused of.
es said:
bush has undermined his own credibility so no matter what he does he has above normal resistance built in. now if he gives a full pardon it will look like a cover up and nobody will believe him if he denies it.
mj said:
Scooter was a stooge, -a willing one perhaps, but still a stooge. The real perpetrators are still in office. It is not likely they will ever be prosecuted, so will punishing the messenger really serve any justice?
Astra said:
Since Bush invaded a sovereign nation under false pretenses and did not withdraw our troops when the truth came to light, nothing he does will surprise me any longer. I do believe that Libby was a fall guy, and anyone convicted would get a pardon. (I realize that he hasn't pardoned Libby yet, but I expect he will do that before he leaves office.)
I will end this by saying 'Happy 4th of July'. I won't say Independence Day because we gave up our independence and freedom on September 11, 2001. Benjamin Franklin said 'Those who give up their freedom for safety deserve neither.' As a county, we've given up the freedoms our forefathers fought and died for, and I personally feel that we can no longer call ourselves free.
es said:
bush took away our freedom with his patriot act. it makes me want to puke every time he calls himself an american. i didnt vote for him and i dont call him "my" president. he is someone im stuck with until the next election.
B. LAzer said:
I made bets that Paris Hilton would spend more time in jail than Scooter Libby. Wish I hadn't won.
Paris Hilton did more time in jail for a DUI and license offense than Scooter Libby did for lying and obstructing an investigation into who leaked a CIA agaent's identity and placed hundreds of people's lives in jeopardy.
Ironic isn't it?
Angela B said:
Here is what Rich Lowry at National Review has to say about this:
"The Founders would be bemused at (the idea that President Bush has overstepped his Constitutional bounds), since — inconveniently for the Scooter-must-hang left — they included the pardon power in the Constitution. There it is in Article II, Section 2: The president “shall have the power to grant reprieves and pardons.” They didn’t include a proviso that the power shall not extend to persons vilified by left-wing bloggers as the personification of “the case for war.”"
I have never seen a President yet justify his pardons. They don't have to. Clinton certainly didn't justify any of his horrendous pardons done in the last few hours of his Presidency. We don't have to like these decisions, we don't have to agree, but short of changing the Constitution which, should it be possible, would come round and bite us in the backside when it was OUR choice of leader who could no longer pardon people we thought deserved it.
Go read the Constitution for yourself before howling about how the President is abusing it.
rkhoov said:
(To be sung to the tune of "Whatever Lola wants, Lola gets."
"Whatever Cheney wants, Cheney gets."
Choose your own Mephistopheles and his current guise.
Pam said:
Bleeding heart liberals? Liberals can't read? Billy Boys scandulous term?
Wow, some people really have their heads in the sand however, sometimes it's good to figure out when to be a fairweather fan and just bail on the team. As it is, your Republican party is quickly bailing on your team. I just can't wait until these crooks are out of office so we Republicans can have a decent, honest country with a strong work ethic again.
Scooter Libby and Bush as peers to our youth are trying to make it ok to cheat, lie and disrespect Americans. Do you think the soldiers in Iraq really want to be there? If you do then definitely go to the nearest recruiter office and enlist yourself. Then go back to your teams bench and talk to them about having your life threatened over lies.
George Greene said:
It is my understanding that while testifying under oath Scooter Libby was placed by the prosecuter in an impossible position which led to the charge of lying.
Yes! Your bias reporting is showing! None of of the original charges were proved against Scooter Libby. The only thing he is guilty of is not poor memory and being crossed up in his testimony by an attorney. You should try reporting the news not projecting you bias slant to the news! You will continue to lose viewers and trust of people.
Scooter should do the time for the crime. And from the top down lock'em all up. This Republican Administration have been laughing at Americans ever since they got in office and if somebody doesn't impeach these crooks they'll be laughing at the rest of us for years to come spending their Oil profits.
Even their constituents that drank the Kool Aid will be out in the cold.
I knew this country was ignorant but this is totally insane.
NO, I feel that the president has excessively exercised his privlidges, it is disgusting that this has been going on for so long like this.
bush did say a dictatorship would be alot easier and here it is with his patriot act taking away our rights and him acting the part of an arrogant absolute ruler. this next election cant come soon enuf for me.
No. Bush and all his crooks should be impeached and serve jail time for bringing this once proud and beautiful country, our beloved United States of America, into the shameful disgrace and polluted edifice they have formed.
Libby was convicted by a Jury, which
Bush said he "respected". Another lie among many. Impeach Bush and Chaney and bring back respect for our constitution.
It was obvious from the beginning that the real guilty ones (Rove and Chaney) would get their fall guy pardoned.
Yes Bush did the right thing!
Some of the comments attest to the fact that the Radical Liberals put their mouth in motion before putting their brain in gear.
Libby was served by our broken down Justice System.
Yes Bush did the right thing!
Some of the comments attest to the fact that the Radical Liberals put their mouth in motion before putting their brain in gear.
Libby was served by our broken down Justice System.
bush is an idiot!
All of you bleeding heart liberals need to understand that your buddy Bill Clinton set the standard for executive pardons. If you're able to read and understand, which I doubt, you need to go back and read recent history about all of the pardons that Billy boy made at the end of his scandal-ridden 2nd term.
All of you bleeding heart liberals need to understand that your buddy Bill Clinton set the standard for executive pardons. If you're able to read and understand, which I doubt, you need to go back and read recent history about all of the pardons that Billy boy made at the end of his scandal-ridden 2nd term.
Posted by: MP at July 3, 2007 08:21 AM
in my lifetime i remember watergate and the iran contra affair so it didnt begin with clinton. that dont mean i like what he did with marc rich especially but on the other hand "bush is still an idiot!"
MP - hopefully you too are able to read and understand because Presidential Pardons did not begin with Slick Willy. Ford pardoned Nixon, HW Bush pardoned everyone associated with iran-contra. And these are just the most resent examples. After Ford pardoned Nixon Cangress tried to pass a resolution that would enable them to vetoe a Presidential Pardon but it couldn't pass the House nor the Senate, so this really is the way that our elected officials like it.
I'm not fan of Bush, but Scooter Libby was only convicted because they couldn't get any dirt on Rove and Cheney. That is why he wasn't charged with anything more serious. Buch and Cheney hung him out there to satisfy those on the Witch Hunt to get someone/anyone convicted. Scotter knew that he would be pardoned if convicted.
it depends on which you think is worse...letting your friend go to jail for you or save him.......the CLINTONS let there friends HANG for them.....bush is just doing for his friends what the Clinton's were to afraid to do.........he is letting them get off Scott free........SOUNDS LIKE ALL THE PARTIES ARE F#%&ED IN THE HEAD to mee.....
This is why so many smart, well-meaning people eventually give up their dreams of being in politics: They soon find out that there is just way too much shady crap that goes on.
I'm not sure that I agree with him or not. One thing I will say is that the Libby deal PALES
in comparison with the number of people that Bubba
pardoned and the crimes for which they were pardoned.
msnbc has an article about this and a poll. so far 74% of the people are against what bush did. so what else is new? it seems no matter what he does the numbers that support him seem like hard core hold outs.
I say yay for President Bush. I was sincerely hoping that he would step in and do something about this. I don't feel that Mr. Libby should have been convicted in the first place. I believe he was a fall-guy.
Geeze peeples. You all act like Bush is the only President to ever pardon anyone. He's been blamed for everything from Global warming, to hurricanes. He'd dang near have to be God, for him to be responsible for everything he's accused of.
bush has undermined his own credibility so no matter what he does he has above normal resistance built in. now if he gives a full pardon it will look like a cover up and nobody will believe him if he denies it.
Scooter was a stooge, -a willing one perhaps, but still a stooge. The real perpetrators are still in office. It is not likely they will ever be prosecuted, so will punishing the messenger really serve any justice?
Since Bush invaded a sovereign nation under false pretenses and did not withdraw our troops when the truth came to light, nothing he does will surprise me any longer. I do believe that Libby was a fall guy, and anyone convicted would get a pardon. (I realize that he hasn't pardoned Libby yet, but I expect he will do that before he leaves office.)
I will end this by saying 'Happy 4th of July'. I won't say Independence Day because we gave up our independence and freedom on September 11, 2001. Benjamin Franklin said 'Those who give up their freedom for safety deserve neither.' As a county, we've given up the freedoms our forefathers fought and died for, and I personally feel that we can no longer call ourselves free.
bush took away our freedom with his patriot act. it makes me want to puke every time he calls himself an american. i didnt vote for him and i dont call him "my" president. he is someone im stuck with until the next election.
I made bets that Paris Hilton would spend more time in jail than Scooter Libby. Wish I hadn't won.
Paris Hilton did more time in jail for a DUI and license offense than Scooter Libby did for lying and obstructing an investigation into who leaked a CIA agaent's identity and placed hundreds of people's lives in jeopardy.
Ironic isn't it?
Here is what Rich Lowry at National Review has to say about this:
"The Founders would be bemused at (the idea that President Bush has overstepped his Constitutional bounds), since — inconveniently for the Scooter-must-hang left — they included the pardon power in the Constitution. There it is in Article II, Section 2: The president “shall have the power to grant reprieves and pardons.” They didn’t include a proviso that the power shall not extend to persons vilified by left-wing bloggers as the personification of “the case for war.”"
I have never seen a President yet justify his pardons. They don't have to. Clinton certainly didn't justify any of his horrendous pardons done in the last few hours of his Presidency. We don't have to like these decisions, we don't have to agree, but short of changing the Constitution which, should it be possible, would come round and bite us in the backside when it was OUR choice of leader who could no longer pardon people we thought deserved it.
Go read the Constitution for yourself before howling about how the President is abusing it.
(To be sung to the tune of "Whatever Lola wants, Lola gets."
"Whatever Cheney wants, Cheney gets."
Choose your own Mephistopheles and his current guise.
Bleeding heart liberals? Liberals can't read? Billy Boys scandulous term?
Wow, some people really have their heads in the sand however, sometimes it's good to figure out when to be a fairweather fan and just bail on the team. As it is, your Republican party is quickly bailing on your team. I just can't wait until these crooks are out of office so we Republicans can have a decent, honest country with a strong work ethic again.
Scooter Libby and Bush as peers to our youth are trying to make it ok to cheat, lie and disrespect Americans. Do you think the soldiers in Iraq really want to be there? If you do then definitely go to the nearest recruiter office and enlist yourself. Then go back to your teams bench and talk to them about having your life threatened over lies.
It is my understanding that while testifying under oath Scooter Libby was placed by the prosecuter in an impossible position which led to the charge of lying.