Do you think minors should be home by 10 p.m.? Too strict? Not strict enough?
12 Comments
Allie said:
I think this is much too strict. What about homecoming? What about football games? What about prom? It's up to the parents, not the city, to decide when their kid should come home.
A curfew law isn't going to stop the minors who caused the law to be made in the first place. It's just going to make the kids who want to spend a Friday night out with friends upset and maybe even rebel. Think who's being punished with this: the good kids or the bad?
Allie said:
I think this is much too strict. What about homecoming? What about football games? What about prom? It's up to the parents, not the city, to decide when their kid should come home.
A curfew law isn't going to stop the minors who caused the law to be made in the first place. It's just going to make the kids who want to spend a Friday night out with friends upset and maybe even rebel. Think who's being punished with this: the good kids or the bad?
K. Frazee said:
The issue of curfews is NOT about kids or what time they should be in, it is about whether any group should be singled out for restrictive laws, which is why Civil Liberties is involved in this case. If we allow laws against individual rights for any group, then we are just one step away from reasoning it is OK to restrict certain ethnic groups "for home security", or other groups for "their own good" or "the general good", which is exactly what the Nazis said when they restricted the rights of Jews, and there are many other examples. The issue is about opening the doors for injustices in our judicial system.
C said:
We could put in an exception for the prom and the 6 football games a year, but you would be escorted to and from those events by an adult.
K. Hall said:
I don't think anyone but a child's parents should govern when they are expected to come home. If it's an issue of the kids getting into trouble because they're out late at night and there's nothing else to do then the parents should be held accountable, as well as the children
es said:
look what happend a few weeks ago up on the elwah reservation, a whole car load of kids at 3 am going down a dirt road, the driver just 19 and the youngest passenger just 14. they drove off a dead end road into the elwah river where 2 of the kids drowned.
the driver had been drinking and had marijuana in her system. where were the parents? who should get sued? who should go to jail? do the parents of the childeren who died have a right to complain because it should have been thier responcibility to make sure thier childeren were not out riding around at 3 am with a drunk driver. if the kids would have been in at a reasonable hour there wouldnt be 2 new graves and 1 on the way to jail.
Relevant said:
Why are we so afraid of being parents to our children? Why are people so afraid of making a decision about their family that they need the Govenment to make a law? Quit being so concerned with being your child's friend and be their parent. Sometimes kids just don't get to do whatever they want to do. It all depends on the situation and the child. My goodness, how in the world have we, as a society, made it this far without laws telling us when to be home. The incident at the Elwah Reservation was horrible and wrong, but to answer your question, YES it was the parents responsibility to make sure that their kids were home and not cruising around at 3am.
Relevant said:
Oh and one more question, directed to the post by "es": Why is it that someone has to be sued? That right there is a large portion of what is currently wrong with our society.
Saera said:
10 is way too strict, and personally, I believe parents should parent, and set their own curfews depending on their beliefs and how responsible their children are. I dont believe parents should have to chaperone their children to a school dance or football game when theyre in highschool and nearly old enough to be legally adults and on their own. Kids have to learn how to handle themselves and make adult decisions sometime, and better learning them slowly and with guidance than being coddled and hidden away until their 18th birthday where real life hits them like a ton of bricks.
If I were to condone a curfew, I'd say have it at 1am for older teens (17-18 living at home), midnight for younger teens (15-16). Still, though, I believe curfews shouldnt be a governmental thing, but a parental one. Each kid is different, and a blanket law always accounts for the lowest common denominator. Maybe some kids should always be home by 10, but others are responsible enough to stay out later. Parents know better than the generic government.
tina said:
I never had a curfew, starting when I was 13. But then again I grew up in the 80's. Things weren't so bad then. I guess I'd have to say it all depends on the child, on their behavior, who they run with, their grades and such.
As long as my kid stayed outta trouble and was safe
I guess they could stay out as long as they wanted.
I used to stay gone all weekend sometimes, just make a phone call to my mom and that was it.
es said:
Oh and one more question, directed to the post by "es": Why is it that someone has to be sued? That right there is a large portion of what is currently wrong with our society.
Posted by: Relevant at April 20, 2007 10:12 AM
there are alot of abuses by people looking for a quick buck but in this case look at the can of worms here. an unmarked road dead ending in a river, who bought the alcohol? if someone suppiled alcohol to a teenager and your child lost thier life as a result you wouldnt sue along with making sure they went to jail? you wouldnt find out who is responcible for marking that road and holding them accountable? the only upside i can see to this whole mess is i doubt the parents of the 19 yr old driver will get taken to the cleaners because she is an adult.
how about those kids who have gotten busted for vandalizing new homes and other properties and recorded it? who do you think is going to be paying the bill? it allways takes a few to ruin it for everyone. even at work there are so many rules you cant remember them all and they usually come from a few or even one who abuse they system and we all pay for it.
i wish we could get by without lawyers and courts but on the other hand when your teen heads out the door can you say with confidence you wouldnt sue or do you have the money to pay for the property damage or medical bills or settlement for a death because your child did something stupid?
I think this is much too strict. What about homecoming? What about football games? What about prom? It's up to the parents, not the city, to decide when their kid should come home.
A curfew law isn't going to stop the minors who caused the law to be made in the first place. It's just going to make the kids who want to spend a Friday night out with friends upset and maybe even rebel. Think who's being punished with this: the good kids or the bad?
I think this is much too strict. What about homecoming? What about football games? What about prom? It's up to the parents, not the city, to decide when their kid should come home.
A curfew law isn't going to stop the minors who caused the law to be made in the first place. It's just going to make the kids who want to spend a Friday night out with friends upset and maybe even rebel. Think who's being punished with this: the good kids or the bad?
The issue of curfews is NOT about kids or what time they should be in, it is about whether any group should be singled out for restrictive laws, which is why Civil Liberties is involved in this case. If we allow laws against individual rights for any group, then we are just one step away from reasoning it is OK to restrict certain ethnic groups "for home security", or other groups for "their own good" or "the general good", which is exactly what the Nazis said when they restricted the rights of Jews, and there are many other examples. The issue is about opening the doors for injustices in our judicial system.
We could put in an exception for the prom and the 6 football games a year, but you would be escorted to and from those events by an adult.
I don't think anyone but a child's parents should govern when they are expected to come home. If it's an issue of the kids getting into trouble because they're out late at night and there's nothing else to do then the parents should be held accountable, as well as the children
look what happend a few weeks ago up on the elwah reservation, a whole car load of kids at 3 am going down a dirt road, the driver just 19 and the youngest passenger just 14. they drove off a dead end road into the elwah river where 2 of the kids drowned.
the driver had been drinking and had marijuana in her system. where were the parents? who should get sued? who should go to jail? do the parents of the childeren who died have a right to complain because it should have been thier responcibility to make sure thier childeren were not out riding around at 3 am with a drunk driver. if the kids would have been in at a reasonable hour there wouldnt be 2 new graves and 1 on the way to jail.
Why are we so afraid of being parents to our children? Why are people so afraid of making a decision about their family that they need the Govenment to make a law? Quit being so concerned with being your child's friend and be their parent. Sometimes kids just don't get to do whatever they want to do. It all depends on the situation and the child. My goodness, how in the world have we, as a society, made it this far without laws telling us when to be home. The incident at the Elwah Reservation was horrible and wrong, but to answer your question, YES it was the parents responsibility to make sure that their kids were home and not cruising around at 3am.
Oh and one more question, directed to the post by "es": Why is it that someone has to be sued? That right there is a large portion of what is currently wrong with our society.
10 is way too strict, and personally, I believe parents should parent, and set their own curfews depending on their beliefs and how responsible their children are. I dont believe parents should have to chaperone their children to a school dance or football game when theyre in highschool and nearly old enough to be legally adults and on their own. Kids have to learn how to handle themselves and make adult decisions sometime, and better learning them slowly and with guidance than being coddled and hidden away until their 18th birthday where real life hits them like a ton of bricks.
If I were to condone a curfew, I'd say have it at 1am for older teens (17-18 living at home), midnight for younger teens (15-16). Still, though, I believe curfews shouldnt be a governmental thing, but a parental one. Each kid is different, and a blanket law always accounts for the lowest common denominator. Maybe some kids should always be home by 10, but others are responsible enough to stay out later. Parents know better than the generic government.
I never had a curfew, starting when I was 13. But then again I grew up in the 80's. Things weren't so bad then. I guess I'd have to say it all depends on the child, on their behavior, who they run with, their grades and such.
As long as my kid stayed outta trouble and was safe
I guess they could stay out as long as they wanted.
I used to stay gone all weekend sometimes, just make a phone call to my mom and that was it.
Oh and one more question, directed to the post by "es": Why is it that someone has to be sued? That right there is a large portion of what is currently wrong with our society.
Posted by: Relevant at April 20, 2007 10:12 AM
there are alot of abuses by people looking for a quick buck but in this case look at the can of worms here. an unmarked road dead ending in a river, who bought the alcohol? if someone suppiled alcohol to a teenager and your child lost thier life as a result you wouldnt sue along with making sure they went to jail? you wouldnt find out who is responcible for marking that road and holding them accountable? the only upside i can see to this whole mess is i doubt the parents of the 19 yr old driver will get taken to the cleaners because she is an adult.
how about those kids who have gotten busted for vandalizing new homes and other properties and recorded it? who do you think is going to be paying the bill? it allways takes a few to ruin it for everyone. even at work there are so many rules you cant remember them all and they usually come from a few or even one who abuse they system and we all pay for it.
i wish we could get by without lawyers and courts but on the other hand when your teen heads out the door can you say with confidence you wouldnt sue or do you have the money to pay for the property damage or medical bills or settlement for a death because your child did something stupid?
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